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	<title>Comments on: Taxing the Taxed: The Case for Differential Taxes</title>
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		<title>By: srikanth</title>
		<link>http://ultraviolet.in/2008/04/23/taxing-the-taxed-the-case-for-differential-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>srikanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>before reading the reasons that you mentioned in this post, i didn&#039;t believe that an issue can be supported in this manner also. All of them are just &quot;nothing&quot;, said for the sake saying something or wrote for the sake of writing something.

according to the post,

women are working in unpaid economy:

   If any one think doing work for her family is &quot;unpaid work&quot; and deserve paying separately, then what about  a man&#039;s spending on that family.... a social service, or charity work...?  I am just saying they are doing for their family. for this charity work, men also need to get some concession in the tax, isn&#039;t it? I don&#039;t how people think, what ever wife doing is unpaid work and what ever men spending their hard earned money for the family is &quot;his duty&quot; and that family (especially wife&#039;s right).

   I am sorry to say, remaining reason&#039;s not even have  worth to comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>before reading the reasons that you mentioned in this post, i didn&#8217;t believe that an issue can be supported in this manner also. All of them are just &#8220;nothing&#8221;, said for the sake saying something or wrote for the sake of writing something.</p>
<p>according to the post,</p>
<p>women are working in unpaid economy:</p>
<p>   If any one think doing work for her family is &#8220;unpaid work&#8221; and deserve paying separately, then what about  a man&#8217;s spending on that family&#8230;. a social service, or charity work&#8230;?  I am just saying they are doing for their family. for this charity work, men also need to get some concession in the tax, isn&#8217;t it? I don&#8217;t how people think, what ever wife doing is unpaid work and what ever men spending their hard earned money for the family is &#8220;his duty&#8221; and that family (especially wife&#8217;s right).</p>
<p>   I am sorry to say, remaining reason&#8217;s not even have  worth to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthasarathy</title>
		<link>http://ultraviolet.in/2008/04/23/taxing-the-taxed-the-case-for-differential-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthasarathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a need for awareness among males of their rights. They should be encouraged to speak out against anti-male laws and norms, just as females are encouraged to do so too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a need for awareness among males of their rights. They should be encouraged to speak out against anti-male laws and norms, just as females are encouraged to do so too.</p>
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		<title>By: Prassoon Suryadas</title>
		<link>http://ultraviolet.in/2008/04/23/taxing-the-taxed-the-case-for-differential-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Prassoon Suryadas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk to any manager about the productivity of their women crews... As a matter of fact no budding company will employ women employees because they dont have that much fund to waste. From my perspective only 10% of the women who go to work actually go to &#039;WORK&#039;. Others are going to work just because they dont like to sit at home. And they intentionally are not ready to take any job that requires serious effort and responsibility. Ofcourse they are well educated but they have a different story to say.

As far as *unpaid job* like parenting is concerned now a days even if the mom is not working the kid will be sent to day care or play school saying &quot;he is too naughty at home and hard to manage&quot;!!!

Presicely majority of the women around the globe doesnt like to take any responsibilty and want to have fun at someone else&#039; cost (either father or husband) also claims all the benefits like tax rebate alimony maintenance etc.

Men are just funding these thinking women will gain some self-esteem in the near future. Unfortunately non of the so called feminists are working on to build us women&#039;s self-esteem self-confidence or what so ever &#039;self &#039; it is and make them think that they are not beggars or refugees. They just keep saying that hey women we are helpless good for nothing creatures and we need tobe supported by men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk to any manager about the productivity of their women crews&#8230; As a matter of fact no budding company will employ women employees because they dont have that much fund to waste. From my perspective only 10% of the women who go to work actually go to &#8216;WORK&#8217;. Others are going to work just because they dont like to sit at home. And they intentionally are not ready to take any job that requires serious effort and responsibility. Ofcourse they are well educated but they have a different story to say.</p>
<p>As far as *unpaid job* like parenting is concerned now a days even if the mom is not working the kid will be sent to day care or play school saying &#8220;he is too naughty at home and hard to manage&#8221;!!!</p>
<p>Presicely majority of the women around the globe doesnt like to take any responsibilty and want to have fun at someone else&#8217; cost (either father or husband) also claims all the benefits like tax rebate alimony maintenance etc.</p>
<p>Men are just funding these thinking women will gain some self-esteem in the near future. Unfortunately non of the so called feminists are working on to build us women&#8217;s self-esteem self-confidence or what so ever &#8216;self &#8216; it is and make them think that they are not beggars or refugees. They just keep saying that hey women we are helpless good for nothing creatures and we need tobe supported by men.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Reading - Links &#171; Editorializing the Editors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Falstaff</title>
		<link>http://ultraviolet.in/2008/04/23/taxing-the-taxed-the-case-for-differential-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Falstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To see why correcting indirect tax anomalies with direct tax breaks is a bad idea, consider women who don&#039;t &#039;work&#039; (meaning, of course, that they don&#039;t work in the formal sector, and therefore pay no tax). You&#039;d think these are the women you&#039;d most like to help - after all they&#039;re the ones with no financial independence and therefore likely to be the most oppressed. Yet these are precisely the women who a direct tax correction will not help at all - they won&#039;t benefit from a direct tax break because they don&#039;t pay direct tax, but they will continue to bear the burden of indirect tax, disproportionate not only to men but also, thanks to your new policy, disproportionate to &#039;working&#039; women. So much for equality. What&#039;s more, a direct tax break may actually harm these women in two ways: first, if lost tax revenues from direct tax breaks  are made up through either increased indirect taxation (even assuming the increase is proportional and not gender biased - which by your own argument it could well be) or through general inflation - the burden of unequal indirect taxation on these women will actually increase [1]. Second, the probability that anything will ever be done to solve the unequal impact of indirect taxation on women will decrease, because, after all, we&#039;re now providing women with tax breaks to make up for that issue, aren&#039;t we? We&#039;ve fixed the problem, haven&#039;t we? Never mind that the people who most needed the help haven&#039;t been helped at all.

And that&#039;s just the extreme case. Technically speaking, any woman whose contribution to household income relative to the average contribution of women to household incomes is lower than her share in household expenditure relative to the average share of all women in household expenditure will not be adequately compensated by a policy that uses direct tax breaks to correct for indirect tax inequalities - with the result that such a policy will only serve to perpetuate inequality, not correct it.

And all that&#039;s assuming that the true gender effect of indirect taxation is accurately measured in calculating the extent of the direct tax break to provide, which is almost sure not to happen if people who call themselves feminists are willing to blindly accept the sop of a direct tax break in compensation for unequal indirect taxes without thinking through the implications and impact of such a policy.

[1] The only way this wouldn&#039;t happen is if the direct tax break for women was entirely made up by an increased incidence of tax on men. Anyone seriously think that&#039;s going to happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To see why correcting indirect tax anomalies with direct tax breaks is a bad idea, consider women who don&#8217;t &#8216;work&#8217; (meaning, of course, that they don&#8217;t work in the formal sector, and therefore pay no tax). You&#8217;d think these are the women you&#8217;d most like to help &#8211; after all they&#8217;re the ones with no financial independence and therefore likely to be the most oppressed. Yet these are precisely the women who a direct tax correction will not help at all &#8211; they won&#8217;t benefit from a direct tax break because they don&#8217;t pay direct tax, but they will continue to bear the burden of indirect tax, disproportionate not only to men but also, thanks to your new policy, disproportionate to &#8216;working&#8217; women. So much for equality. What&#8217;s more, a direct tax break may actually harm these women in two ways: first, if lost tax revenues from direct tax breaks  are made up through either increased indirect taxation (even assuming the increase is proportional and not gender biased &#8211; which by your own argument it could well be) or through general inflation &#8211; the burden of unequal indirect taxation on these women will actually increase [1]. Second, the probability that anything will ever be done to solve the unequal impact of indirect taxation on women will decrease, because, after all, we&#8217;re now providing women with tax breaks to make up for that issue, aren&#8217;t we? We&#8217;ve fixed the problem, haven&#8217;t we? Never mind that the people who most needed the help haven&#8217;t been helped at all.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just the extreme case. Technically speaking, any woman whose contribution to household income relative to the average contribution of women to household incomes is lower than her share in household expenditure relative to the average share of all women in household expenditure will not be adequately compensated by a policy that uses direct tax breaks to correct for indirect tax inequalities &#8211; with the result that such a policy will only serve to perpetuate inequality, not correct it.</p>
<p>And all that&#8217;s assuming that the true gender effect of indirect taxation is accurately measured in calculating the extent of the direct tax break to provide, which is almost sure not to happen if people who call themselves feminists are willing to blindly accept the sop of a direct tax break in compensation for unequal indirect taxes without thinking through the implications and impact of such a policy.</p>
<p>[1] The only way this wouldn&#8217;t happen is if the direct tax break for women was entirely made up by an increased incidence of tax on men. Anyone seriously think that&#8217;s going to happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Falstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indhu: Women &quot;are responsible - emotionally, physically and financially for childrearing&quot; only if they have children, yes? As I say above, I&#039;m all for tax breaks for children and for single mothers.  Why should women who don&#039;t have children get tax breaks?

The overall point is that you shouldn&#039;t give tax breaks on something that&#039;s correlated to disadvantage - you should give tax breaks for the source of the disadvantage itself.

And you still haven&#039;t given us a reason why gender-bias in indirect taxation should be fixed through gender-bias in direct taxation, instead of by correcting the gender bias in indirect taxation itself. I&#039;m all for scrutinizing tax impact from a gender perspective. In fact, I&#039;m suggesting that instead of providing some arbitrary compensation for unspecified and unmeasured inequalities in indirect taxation through tax breaks in direct taxation (your suggestion) we actually scrutinize and measure these alleged inequalities in indirect taxation and fix them at their source, rather than trying for a piecemeal direct tax break that is likely to be both inefficient and ineffective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indhu: Women &#8220;are responsible &#8211; emotionally, physically and financially for childrearing&#8221; only if they have children, yes? As I say above, I&#8217;m all for tax breaks for children and for single mothers.  Why should women who don&#8217;t have children get tax breaks?</p>
<p>The overall point is that you shouldn&#8217;t give tax breaks on something that&#8217;s correlated to disadvantage &#8211; you should give tax breaks for the source of the disadvantage itself.</p>
<p>And you still haven&#8217;t given us a reason why gender-bias in indirect taxation should be fixed through gender-bias in direct taxation, instead of by correcting the gender bias in indirect taxation itself. I&#8217;m all for scrutinizing tax impact from a gender perspective. In fact, I&#8217;m suggesting that instead of providing some arbitrary compensation for unspecified and unmeasured inequalities in indirect taxation through tax breaks in direct taxation (your suggestion) we actually scrutinize and measure these alleged inequalities in indirect taxation and fix them at their source, rather than trying for a piecemeal direct tax break that is likely to be both inefficient and ineffective.</p>
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		<title>By: Indhu Subramaniam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indhu Subramaniam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ falstaff,

women earning lower wages, even when their tax incidence is low are being burdened through indirect taxation. Indirect taxes are not neutral and the impacts needs to be scrutinised from a gender perspective  is  waht I was pointing out.

&quot;I’m not sure why tax breaks for child-rearing costs should translate into tax breaks for women generally&quot;.

well women, whether they like it or not are esponsible- emotionally, physically and financially for childrearing- across the board so why shouldn&#039;t women have tax breaks in general? the overall point is that you can&#039;t decide tax based only the income that is earned  without factoring in other disadvantages that being woman entails.
@bombay dosti
it was good for me to tackle a different subject, glad you found it interesting
@ Shreya Bhandari
yes we have to understand equality in some depth.  it is not just formal but needs to tanslate substantively into wome&#039;s lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ falstaff,</p>
<p>women earning lower wages, even when their tax incidence is low are being burdened through indirect taxation. Indirect taxes are not neutral and the impacts needs to be scrutinised from a gender perspective  is  waht I was pointing out.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m not sure why tax breaks for child-rearing costs should translate into tax breaks for women generally&#8221;.</p>
<p>well women, whether they like it or not are esponsible- emotionally, physically and financially for childrearing- across the board so why shouldn&#8217;t women have tax breaks in general? the overall point is that you can&#8217;t decide tax based only the income that is earned  without factoring in other disadvantages that being woman entails.<br />
@bombay dosti<br />
it was good for me to tackle a different subject, glad you found it interesting<br />
@ Shreya Bhandari<br />
yes we have to understand equality in some depth.  it is not just formal but needs to tanslate substantively into wome&#8217;s lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Shreya Bhandari</title>
		<link>http://ultraviolet.in/2008/04/23/taxing-the-taxed-the-case-for-differential-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>Shreya Bhandari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 02:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the lower taxes for women is a type of positive discrimination. It  should go on till we reach equality between men and women. I think equality will not be reached till men wouldn&#039;t have a problem doing  house work and being house husbands or doing  child care.

Equal rights for men and women should be asked for when they reach the same level. It is also an indirect way for the men to encourage girls and women to be undergo higher education and consequently take up jobs in  tertiary sectors which are highly paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the lower taxes for women is a type of positive discrimination. It  should go on till we reach equality between men and women. I think equality will not be reached till men wouldn&#8217;t have a problem doing  house work and being house husbands or doing  child care.</p>
<p>Equal rights for men and women should be asked for when they reach the same level. It is also an indirect way for the men to encourage girls and women to be undergo higher education and consequently take up jobs in  tertiary sectors which are highly paid.</p>
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		<title>By: bombaydosti</title>
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		<dc:creator>bombaydosti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continuing from the &#039;Mixing it up&#039;, i think this post was a refreshingly new topic. Your article does give me a structured idea about why tax must be kept differential. I had not thought about your first point, so, thanks for that thought!
To me, the second point makes a lot of sense. Not only is it because women are usually seen in lower paying jobs, but even in similar jobs, woman are paid less. Therefore, as long as gender differentiation exists in paying them, it makes sense in being lenient to them as well.

Your fourth point, makes the biggest sense to me.
Many studies indicate that ,a bigger percentage of a woman&#039;s earning, flows into the family compared to that of men -A reason why a number of poverty alleviation programmes have been directed to women. Therefore a lenient tax system would not only improve their own lives but also that of the family.

But it remains to see whether differential tax must be applied to the higher income brackets.
Interesting Post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing from the &#8216;Mixing it up&#8217;, i think this post was a refreshingly new topic. Your article does give me a structured idea about why tax must be kept differential. I had not thought about your first point, so, thanks for that thought!<br />
To me, the second point makes a lot of sense. Not only is it because women are usually seen in lower paying jobs, but even in similar jobs, woman are paid less. Therefore, as long as gender differentiation exists in paying them, it makes sense in being lenient to them as well.</p>
<p>Your fourth point, makes the biggest sense to me.<br />
Many studies indicate that ,a bigger percentage of a woman&#8217;s earning, flows into the family compared to that of men -A reason why a number of poverty alleviation programmes have been directed to women. Therefore a lenient tax system would not only improve their own lives but also that of the family.</p>
<p>But it remains to see whether differential tax must be applied to the higher income brackets.<br />
Interesting Post!</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; India: A different tax for women?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; India: A different tax for women?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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